Saturday, July 27, 2013

With Complete Love and Concern.

A heart filled, loving message from Aaron Tunell to his friend Danny. It is a loving, truthful message to all Mormons. I needed to share it with anyone who is willing to take the time to read. Mormon and Non-Mormon alike. Thank you for your permission Aaron.
"Let me see if I can help you see where I am coming from as an Ex-Mormon who appears to you to be having some kind of schizoid panic attack about nothing. (which the 2011 Aaron would have thought also ) I hope you'll slog through what I'm about to say even though it's kinda long. And please think about it coming from someone who you once knew and trusted as a friend and confidant rather than as the lovable idiot Bobby Boucher.

Imagine you want to take your family to an amazing theme park resort. You've heard a lot about Disney World on TV and your friends have talked about it a lot, so you decide to drive down to Florida to stay there for a couple of weeks. You arrive to Florida only to be confused because there are 50 theme parks all lined up that all say "DisneyWorld" on the front. They all have a picture of Mickey Mouse on the front, but 47 of them all share placards on the front that say "Confirmed Mousketeer Park. Some Peripheral Rides May Vary, But the Core Park is Identical"

Most of these 47 parks are very small and unassuming, and in fact don't look super amazing or super fun. They only have a couple of rides that can even be seen over the top of the wall.

Now of the other 3 parks, one of them towers above the others in an amazing spectacle of fun and amazement. The front doors are beautiful, and there are hundreds of happy looking people inside, and people going in by the thousands. It is perhaps the most beautifully constructed theme park ever designed. It has it's own placard that says "The REAL Disneyland" but there is no Mousketeer placard on the front. This MUST be the real disneyland because it is so amazing. It has many things that are lovely, praiseworthy, and of good report. Obviously you want the best for your family so you decide to go to this disneyland, even though the mouse on the sign above is slightly different than the others (the others must be wrong). Perhaps it has a mustache or 5 fingers instead of 4. It doesn't matter, it's still Mickey, right?

You get inside and have an amazing time with your family and friends who are all there too. You go on rides together and have an amazing time playing, relaxing, and doing all the THINGS that theme park visitors do. And the most amazing part? At the end of the trip, everybody who hasn't left early gets to go through the big doors in the back to the largest and most exhilirating ride in the entire park. It's going to be the high point of the entire trip, Hooray!!!

One night, you're out after dark getting a churro and you walk past a crack in the wall by the back door and look through. Instead of seeing a fabulous roller-coaster, you see a giant filthy rat sitting on a towering pile of corpses. Each corpse has a frozen grimace of shock and horror on its face, limbs twisted and broken and mouths gaping. You retch inwardly, telling yourself over and over "This can't be real, This can't be real.... This is the TRUE Disney World!"

You run back to your hotel room to warn your family, and as you're going you start to notice a lot of alarming things you hadn't seen before. You notice black smoke coming from a chimney near the back door where the corpses are being burned, you notice more and more of the details on that Mickey Mouse sign that are slightly different from the ones on the "Confirmed Mousketeer Parks"... In fact, every direction you look there's something ugly being covered up by a conveniently placed sign, or being plastered over with a fresh coat of paint. Once the rose-colored glasses have come off, you see the signs EVERYWHERE. How could you have missed it?

When you get back to your room, your wife and friends say:
"How could such a beautiful theme park with a picture of Mickey on the front be bad?"
"This Mickey is the same one, it's just more complete than the other Mickeys"
"You're overreacting, and just being 'Anti-Tourist'"
"Every other theme park has chipped paint too"
"If this theme park is bad, then all theme parks are bad"
"The other theme parks don't have as many rides"
"If you leave the park, you can't go through the beautiful back door with us."
"The staff says this is the only real park"
"The staff would never lie"

Would you walk away quietly while your friends and family walk casually through the back door, confident they are in the REAL Disneyland?
Would you just shut up?
Would you play nicey-nice and pretend all of the disneylands were the same?

Hell no.

I see my friends walking excitedly through the back doors, high fiving and slapping each other on the back, ecstatic to be at the REAL Disneyland. All around them are the signs that you could see plainly but they don't want to look! And when you frantically point and scream, they call you a troublemaker. And add to that the Staff who is constantly telling people about how awesome the park is and that people like you are just hateful and jealous.

A lot of Mormons want us to just walk away quietly and "stop attacking the church" when we start to see all this stuff. But this is how I see myself, Danny. Horrified and what is happening.
This stuff is real, Danny. I believe God is real, Jesus is real, and hell is real. You think I'm going to let this continue?

Every denomination has issues, I agree, Danny. But NO TRUE CHRISTIAN will tell you that their church saves you. They will ALL tell you that it is their direct saving relationship with Christ. 100% Grace 0% works and ordinances (contrary to Article of Faith 3)
This is taught in all 47 of the "Confirmed Mousketeer Theme Parks", but it is not taught in the so-called "Real Park"

I'm telling you, Danny. I believe this is important. And Mormonism has 72,000 missionaries out there knocking on the doors of Bible-Believing, Traditional Christians. What would YOU do?" 

Wednesday, July 17, 2013

Christian Essentials - Are you a true Christian?

Could a Christian Pastor go up to a pulpit in a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints chapel and preach the Gospel?  Could a Bishop, Stake President or even a regular LDS church member go up to the pulpit at a Christian church and preach the Gospel?
 Let's ask this same question about a Jehovah's Witness, Muslim, Jew, Wiccan, Hindu, Taoist and other religions that believe in Jesus Christ.
Would it be the same gospel that is being taught? The answer is No. They would all be very different "Gospels".

 Why? They all have a belief of Jesus Christ. They all speak of him. We all know a John or a Jane. But is it the same John or Jane we are talking about? That question can be answered by asking a few simple questions about them. What they look like, where they are from.. etc.. You have to ask these same question about Jesus.

Jehovah's Witness believe Jesus is Michael, the Archangel. He was God's first creation and was used by God to create all things. 

Muslim's believe Jesus is a Prophet and the Messiah of the Israelite's.

Mormons believe Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan and all of those who live on the Earth. 

Wiccan's believe Jesus was a highly advanced spiritual person, a great sage and saint.

Hindu's believe  Jesus was an avatar and, more specifically, as the reincarnation of Krishna.

Taoist don't deny anyone else God's so although they believe in Jesus, Jesus is just the God of the Christians. They believe “God” is just a force that people need to harmonize themselves with. There is no personal relationship between you and the Tao. Taoist beliefs seems to be what most are drawn to today in the New-age teachings. Harmonizing ourselves with a force. They don't pray to any deity.

None of these are biblical (Meaning, they aren't in the bible)

For someone to say they are Christian, they would have to believe in the essential Christian teachings. Some of the religions above say they are also Christian while rejecting the Christan view of  essential teachings. To a true Christian (Someone who holds the Bible as the only writings needed without adding or removing other writings) that hears when one of these other religions state they are Christian, yet don't hold to all the essentials cause the Christian to question or reject their claim. This would be like a person in a Polygamy Group, who follow all the teachings of Joseph Smith INCLUDING Polygamy, saying they are a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. How would an LDS member take that? What about an LDS member saying they are a member of the RLDS? What about someone saying they were a "Tao-Jew" a "Muslim-Mormon" or even a "Wicca-Jehovah's Witness".

There have been and are many sects that follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. All have prayed and have received a confirmation from the Holy Spirit that their church is the "One and only true church on the face of the Earth". What truly distinguishes them from each other? If they aren't true then why have they all received a burning of the bosom testimony? Can truth always be confirmed by a strong emotional feeling?

The trouble with a Mormon saying they are a Christan is they don't hold to the essential teachings. They may use the same terms and wordage but have vastly different definitions. They may ask then how can a Catholic or a Protestant be Christian? Because they teach the Essentials, as do many other Christan denominations where Mormonism reject, add to or subtract from these essentials. 

What are the Essentials?

1. The Deity of Christ.
2. Salvation by Grace alone.
3.  The Resurrection of Christ
4. The gospel.
5. Monotheism.

As well as secondary essential doctrines.

1. Jesus is the only way to salvation
2. Jesus' Virgin Birth
3. Doctrine of the Trinity
 
 http://carm.org/essential-doctrines-of-christianity 

You and a Friend go out to play Golf. You both go out to the green, stick your tee's in the ground and place your golf ball on top of it. Step up to your ball and get ready to swing. You pull your club back and follow through, hitting the ball square on and watch it sail down the fairway and land near the 1st hole. Your friend then steps up to his ball. Pulls back his club and follows through hitting his ball down the fairway. Instead of watching his ball sail down the fairway till it lands, he proceeds to chase after it. When it hits the ground he then kicks the ball down the fairway till it lands on the green. While on the green, You step up with your putting club and in one soft tap you knock your ball in the hole. It's a Birdie! Your friend walks up to his ball. Takes out his putting club and  then goes onto his stomach on the green. Takes the putting club and holds it like a pool cue stick. He then hits the golf ball like a pool ball till it rolls near the hold. Your friend then stands up walks over to the ball, turns the club around and taps his ball into the hole. "BIRDIE!" Are you both playing golf?

He has his way of playing his version of golf and you have your way. Who's following the true directions for golf? If we could all play games and follow our own directions the games would be chaos. No direction or order. That's what the bible is. A rule book. A set of Scriptures for us to read daily and follow. We really can't pick and choose what it is we want to follow and still say we are Christian. We don't add to it or take parts away. We have to hold to the whole Word or not at all.

Since I have experience with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormonism) I'll be bringing up some examples concerning them.

Mormonism seems to be a floating point. One prophet can contradict a former prophet. They claim to have Modern Day revelation and are given daily guidance by it even if it does go against what God's holy words says or even what previous prophets have stated. There are no set rules that are placed in concrete. Everything can be changed, moved or are up for each individuals interpretation. One example. Joseph Smith stated on November 28th 1841,  "I told the brethren,” he said, “that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.” (Smith, History of the Church, 4:461; see also Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, comp. Joseph Fielding Smith (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1976), 194.)

I agree with a verse in the Book of Mormon that is explaining the Trinity. 2 Nephi 31:21 "...And now, behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen."

Joseph refuted that Idea later in his life in 1843 when he stated. " “We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see. These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did, and I will show it from the Bible” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pp.345-346. Italics in original).

Also stated in the year 1843:

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods," (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).

How could Joseph contradict the Book of Mormon with his teaching? Didn't he question 2 Nephi 31:21 when he was translating. According to the official accounts of his First vision, he saw God the Father and Jesus Christ, side by side, in the flesh before translating the Book of Mormon. (It's interesting that there are many accounts of the first vision and all are different. Joseph, personally, also didn't write it down till 1838, 18 years after it supposedly happened. Wouldn't such an important event have been written down sooner for clarity and historical purposes?)

Other Book of Mormon scriptures supporting the biblical view about the Trinity:
Alma 11:27-39, 44
Mormon 7:7
3 Nephi11:27
Testimony of Three Witnesses

In these examples, the book which Mormons hold to as the  "most correct of any book on earth" teaches about the trinity (A Christian View). Yet modern Mormonism choose to teach that God is three Persons, one in purpose. Even they are picking and choosing which of their own scripture to live and believe by what their leaders choose to teach.

No wounder there are so many different sects that follow Joseph Smith. Yet, unlike Christian Denominations, they all deny one another as sharing in the "One and only True church on the face of the Earth."

As a Christian, we believe all who believe in the true Biblical Jesus are "The Church". It's not a building you go to, or a certain sect or denomination you choose to follow. Those who Love Jesus and accept him as God, who came down in the flesh, to die for our sins and rose again on the 3rd day as well as believe that he, Jesus, is all we need for salvation to go and live with him in heaven, putting our full trust in him and him alone, are true Christians. If you are putting your focus on a building build by man, and ordinances that are not biblical, how can you call yourself Christian?

It is only recently that the Mormons wanted to be called "Christians," preferring not to be included with Christian denominations, which Joseph Smith Jr. said were, "all wrong ... all their creeds were an abomination in His sight, and that those professors (Christians) were all corrupt" (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith, 2:18-19); Mormons have preferred to be called "saints" in the past. In recent years, the LDS church has spent millions of dollars in an intense "PR" campaign aimed at moving the Mormon church into the mainstream of Christianity. The political and economic benefits of Mormons being included in the mainstream of Christianity are obvious. Further, for Mormons to be accepted as traditional Christians would greatly aid in proselytizing the members of Christian denominations into the LDS church. This is why the LDS church is trying so hard to present itself as Christian and is trying to overcome the stigma of it's past anti-Christian, un-biblical teachings.

What is the Gospel?
http://carm.org/essential-doctrines-of-christianity
  1. "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!" (Gal. 1:8-9, NIV).
    1. Verses 8 and 9 here in Galatians are a self declarative statement that you must believe the gospel.  The gospel message which in its entirety is that Jesus is God in flesh, who died for sins, rose from the dead, and freely gives the gift of eternal life to those who believe.
    2. Furthermore, it would not be possible to present the gospel properly without declaring that Jesus is God in flesh per John 1:1,14; 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8; Heb. 1:8.
  2. 1 Cor. 15:1-4 defines what the gospel is: "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.  By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you.  Otherwise, you have believed in vain.  For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures," (NIV).
    1. Within these verses are the essentials: Christ is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; 10:30-33; 20:28; Col. 2:9); Salvation is received by faith (John 1:12; Rom. 10:9-10), therefore it is by grace; and the resurrection is mentioned in verse 4.  Therefore, this gospel message automatically includes the essentials. 

    The True Gospel message automatically includes the Essentials. Nothing added upon and nothing taken away. If your religion isn't in line with these and you are claiming to be Christian, you may want to take a second look keeping in mind Gal. 1:8-9.

    God Bless.





Thursday, July 11, 2013

He's so Amazing!

I'm in awe most days! Totally amazed how a life can change in an instant. Jesus truly does keep his promises.

He said. "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. John 5:24

Having experienced this first hand, and knowing what it is Jesus did for me, I can't help but share when people who have known me or years, known my struggles and history, say, "You've changed." "You're different." and one of my favorites, "You are glowing".   It was nothing I personally did. He changed me in an instant. It took a little while to put my thumb on the change. One day I was sticking to a strict schedule of exercise and daily rituals and using oils and herbs to ward off anxiety, depression, panic attacks and daily suicidal thoughts that hit out of no where, to totally forgetting about them, not needing to take them. It was a full week before I noticed. When the realization hit, I was floored, and still am. 

How many times I begged, pleaded, threw myself on on the ground, to my knees and begged to have the weight lifted. Wondering what was wrong with me. Why was I given these things to deal with that would cause me to dread each day? Was there some sin I still needed to repent of before he could help me? It was like I was literally shoving these heavy burdens, these chains, onto Jesus but he was rejecting them. Was he "rejecting" them or was he unable to take them?

I had to take the journey I did to find Jesus. The real true Jesus. I am happy and free, in Christ!

1 John 4:18-19 NIV "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear,because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. We love because He first loved us."


Why I'm not comfortable with anyone being a Mormon.

Recently, a 10 year friendship was very hurt over my blunt honesty. She couldn't be friends with someone who wasn't comfortable with her being Mormon. She didn't want to read any of my "Anti Mormon Propaganda" so how else am I suppose to tell her why? (Anti Mormon Propaganda = Anything that isn't "Church Approved" material)

Truthfully. I am not comfortable with ANYONE being Mormon. Not just her. I wish she would have been more open and willing to discuss it but she put on the usual close minded Mormon facade, said she was happy I was happy and chose to be extremely hurt. Can I accept her as a Person? Absolutely!! But being comfortable, sorry. I am not only being honest with her, but also to myself. I can't be comfortable, which is what she asked me to be.  

She, in a sense, may as well tell me I need to be comfortable with someone being gay, or a child molester. That will never happen. Can I accept them as people who are misguided or made mistakes? Absolutely! Just like my acceptance with someone being Mormon and misguided. I would hope I would be afforded the same courtesy for my sins and mistakes. I have friends who aren't "comfortable" with me being a total "Jesus Freak" but they still love and accept me, as a person.

Another thing she brought up was she feels personally attacked when I point out bad doctrine about the Mormon Church. She stated that's who she is. She is Mormon. She is the doctrine. No... The LDS church is a Corporation and cannot be a person. If the LDS church were to one day be null and void, would that make her null and void? No.. Because she is an individual. A beautiful creation of God. She is singular.. Not physically woven into the Corporation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You cannot share your identity with a corporation.

At times in the conversation I was silent. I wanted to tell her the truth of her words but was restrained. Other times I wanted to lash back at her, as she was lashing out at me but the verse in James kept coming to mind. "...everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry," I'm sure she took it another way but I could not speak without it, in some form or another, hurting her or cause her to yell at me.

I've felt this friendship might never have been built on trust and honesty but more of a "tickling of the ears", feel good to be around, relationship. I knew I would be putting our friendship in jeopardy by being honest but I had hoped my complete honesty would have been taken better then she took it. Hopefully time will help heal the hurt and bring some light on things. If what I said really bothered her enough, I hope she takes the time to look into the reasons why.

Here are the reasons why I feel this way. It has nothing to do with the people but the doctrine and message the LDS church teaches and sends.

#1. It's built upon lies. They have white washed their history and provide a wide array of propaganda materials and videos to twist and distort the true Gospel in the bible. They put it to heart felt music and use Christian terminology with twisted meanings. They tell their followers to only use "church approved" materials for teaching and studying. Those materials constantly change. They send messages of fear, worded so sweetly, to coerce the members to stay away from anything not "church approved" to keep them ignorant of their true history. In most of their messages it's not what they say that sends the most powerful message but what isn't said. What is always being implied.  

#2 Their Temple endowment was stolen from the Masons by Joseph Smith. The symbols the endowed members wear are of the occult and keep them spiritually blinded as they wear them. In the Temple they covenant to wear the garment, day and night and never remove them. Satan is with Adam and Eve in the "loan and dreary world" and he threatens the patrons, before he's cast out by Peter, before they make any of the covenants. He says " If they do not walk up to every covenant they make at these altars in this temple this day, they will be in my power! " I truly believe they are under his power by wearing occult symbolism day and night. Before 1990 The penalties for braking any of the covenants were some pretty gruesome and explicate ways their life would be taken. Brian and I experienced them in 1994 in the Polygamy Endowment. Polygamists hold to the old ways the Mormons use to do things without changing them to fit the comfort level of it's members.

These are some things that we noticed were missing between the Polygamist endowment and the LDS endowment:
1. Protestant minister paid by Lucifer to preach false doctrine was eliminated.
2. All penalties (and gestures like throat slashing, chest slashing and bowel slashing) were eliminated.
3. Women's promise to be obedient to husbands was modified.
4. The intimate position at the veil (foot to foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand on shoulder and mouth to ear) was eliminated. (5 Points of fellowship)
5. The strange words "Pay Lay Ale" (meaning "Oh God hear the words of my mouth") were eliminated.

Since then, other changes have been made in the "washing and anointing" session and sitting and standing ritual during the endowment. All changes were made to make the patrons feel more "comfortable". Does God change to fit everyone's comfort level? Would he ever require something that would have to change because of a cultural difference, comfort level or physical ability?

#3 Temple Symbolism. The symbols on the Temples are of an occult origin and have also been stolen.. Or perhaps they are where they should be considering the different gospel according to Paul. Many excuses have been made from "Satan stole it from God" to "They were on Solomon's Temple". One must also consider that Joseph joined the Freemasons along with Sidney Rigdon Tuesday, March 15, 1842. The Mormon involvement in Freemasonry reached its heights during the early 1840's in Nauvoo. The Mormon Endowment was introduced around 1 month after they joined Masonry. Before then there were no Masonic symbols/rituals anywhere in Mormonism.  

Study the symbols on the temple and then study their original origins then you decide their true meanings.

#4 They preach a different Gospel then one in the bible. What is the gospel preached in the bible? Do you know your gospel? Is it simple enough for a child to understand?

...There are more but I will stop there.

Why would I be okay with someone being involved in something so twisted and full of lies?  Or someone who is living a lifestyle that is specifically spoken of as being an abomination (Homosexuality) in God's word, the Bible.  I'm not and I never will be comfortable having my Mormon Friends and family being lied to. If it's not from God and his word then where is it from? Who is the Father of all lies? I will always love Mormons/Polygamists and I understand why they don't see the truth. I was in their shoes for 36 years! I pray daily that God would remove the scales from their eyes and allow them to see. Give them the drive to look and study things out for themselves. See the simple truths of the true gospel and one day, find Jesus. The True biblical Jesus. Not Satan's Brother and their Brother. The true Jesus. God who came down in the flesh and died for your sins and mine. Who offers the free gift of Grace. Not of works. If you work for Grace it's no longer a free gift and no longer Grace.

I would rather be hated for telling the truth then loved for telling a lie. Don't expect me to comfort you with a lie.


Thursday, July 4, 2013

Speaking as a Prophet or as a Man?

How do you decipher when a Mormon Prophet is speaking as a man and when he's speaking as a prophet?

Many, if not all of the LDS prophets who have passed have stated something that is now considered as "He was speaking as a man".. but those who followed them back in there day didn't hold to the same beliefs.

When President Gordon Hinckley answered Larry King on his show about caffeine.

Larry King: No to caffeine?
Gordon B. Hinckley: No to caffeine, coffee and tea.

And when Hinckley was interviewed on 60 min by Mike Wallace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFDP_MeYhg 

 My husband drank Mountain Dew but only on long drives out of state to and from work. He drank it to keep himself awake to make it home in one piece. But the thought of him drinking something that the Prophet said Mormons didn't do, troubled him deeply! Deeply enough that stopped drinking it totally and put his life in jeopardy getting behind the wheel of the car, making the drive home, a lot of the time alone or with other tired, sleeping passengers in his care, without the aid of any caffeinated beverages to help him stay awake and alert.

On the BYU Campus some students were complaining about not being able to purchase caffeinated soda on campus.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54875621-78/caffeine-church-drinks-caffeinated.html.csp 

Not long after this the LDS church came forward with an official "Revelation" on caffeinated soda. I thought they already had a stance on caffeine.. It wasn't suppose to be consumed if you were a member of the LDS church.. Why the change? A day later the "Revelations" wording changed.

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/state-and-regional/lds-church-clarifies-stance-on-caffeine/article_e4e357d0-ba5d-5a6c-8e78-dd1e791a34b2.html

This may seem trivial.. and it is, because people are going to do whatever it is they want in the safely and comfort of their own homes. No one can tell you what you can and can't eat or drink. What clothing you have to wear and what media and literature you choose to view. It's between you and God. Not you and another Man.

I'm bringing this up because of all the changes in the LDS church. One living prophet can contradict a passed prophet and never be questioned.  Back in Brigham Young's day, he stated that Adam was God. His followers followed him with all their heart and soul and knew that God was speaking through him revealing hidden or new found truths. That doctrine is found to no longer be true in today's LDS Doctrines. Why? Why should the followers of the passed believe a doctrine to be true but in our day it's believed to be false? How can someone choose to believe that they were speaking as a Man when clearly, he was your prophet of your church?

What about Polygamy?

He (Brigham Young)stated that if the Church ever turned away from living polygamy, the Devil would rejoice.

"We are told that if we would give up polygamy - which we know to be a doctrine revealed from heaven, and it is God and the world for it - but suppose this Church should give up this holy order of marriage, then would the devil, and all who are in league with him against the cause of God, rejoice that they had prevailed upon the Saints to refuse to obey one of the revelations and commandments of God to them." JoD 11:239 (June 3, 1866)

He also stated it's polygamy was ever given up you will be damned.

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned; and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given, and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned." JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

Polygamy is no longer lived in the LDS church, unless you are male and  have divorced your wife or your wife passed away then married again having another woman sealed to you.  Women are not allowed to be sealed to more then one man. It's been changed and removed from the official doctrine.

Along with all these are also:

-As Man Is, God Once Was
-Blacks and the Priesthood
-Law of adoption
-Polygamy
-Blood Atonement
-Speaking in tongues
-Temple Endowments
-United Order
-Word of Wisdom
-Removed the Lectures on Faith from the Doctrine and Covenants
....and many more...

How do you truly know when an LDS prophet is speaking as a man or a prophet? You can start with God's word.

"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." Deuteronomy 18:20-22

Go down the list of your prophets. Has every word, that they spoke in the name of the Lord, come to pass? If not, what excuses will you come up with to justify why? Are you going to fully believe the word of God or put your trust in Men? Men, who supposedly were speaking for God in their time, having the words they uttered be nothing more then mere words from a man in our time. Words that hold no power or authority now, because yet another Man said they were speaking "As a Man".

What a confusing existence to live trusting in the arm of flesh and not an all mighty, all powerful, omnipotent, perfect God.