Saturday, January 19, 2013

He Gave You Jesus! ~"JustJo"



He Gave You Jesus!
-an Internet discussion board post -by "JustJo"
(Used with permission from "JustJo")
http://www.mormondoctrine.net/He_gave_you_Jesus.htm

Counterfeit, fake, bogus, imitation, forgery, fraud, copy, reproduction, simulation, impersonation, deception, deceived, tricked, hoodwinked, hoax, dupe, mislead, delude, outwit, beguile, betray.... could we also include the word "clone?"

We all recognize these words, as well as understand their meaning.

We are faced with counterfeit money. Money that is so close to the real thing, no untrained or naked eye can detect it. These bills are marked with a magic marker in order to detect real from fake when received by a banker or cashier.

Some people are so good at forgery, it takes an expert to tell the difference in signatures.

To make a copy of the original, is still a copy, an imitation of the original. Depending on the copy machine, it can be very difficult to see the difference.

Clone is an exact duplicate of its parent. But it is still a duplicate that cannot be detected by the untrained eye, mostly by scientific methods.

Lets take a $20 bill. It looks like a twenty, feels like a twenty, even smells like a twenty.... but I get up to the register to trade it for my merchandise. The cashier marks it with her marker & it doesn't turn the color it's supposed to.... it's not a twenty...But! The other store gave it to me as change back! Look! I worked hard to earn my money, you can't hold me responsible for another store giving me a bogus 20!

I'm outta luck! Off to jail I go for trying to pass off counterfeit money.

What is it about the LDS faithful they think they are immune to counterfeits? It looks good, sounds good, best of all, it feels good, until you get to those pearly gates & your spirit is detected as false. A Mormon might say: It's not my fault the Mormon doctrines lied to me! I worked hard in the "church" and I gave God my all, even 10% of my income to cover church expenses. I gave fast offerings monthly to feed the hungry. Gave all my old clothes to D.I. so the poor could buy them at dirt cheap prices.... those were expensive clothes. Every time I prayed, I prayed in the name of Jesus. In just the last 10 years, I had 100% attendance. Kept my temple recommend current. Did my duty to all my callings. I followed the feelings in my heart that beckoned me. I can't help they led me astray, it's not my fault!

Too bad....you were told that only the Holy Spirit could testify Jesus as the Son of God... but even the demons believe the Son of God, they even testify of Him.... God warned you, He gave you His word.... but you turned to someone else because you just couldn't trust Him; you had to look for something that felt better; sounded better and looked good to others; gave you the feeling that God cannot be trusted, He cannot even keep His word holy...

Some of you hold a priesthood and claim to have authority He did not give. For this God gave you the book of Hebrews.

Some Mormons say that evidence destroys faith and that salvation is for everyone, but "exaltation" {ultimate Mormon salvation} is for those who've been baptized and have received secret handshakes (tokens and signs) to get there, so who needs evidence?! For this God gave you the book of Romans.

Mormonism would have us believe that one must be baptized in water by the proper authority, and this same authority is the only one to give you the Holy Spirit. For real baptism God gave you the book of Acts.

To receive Him, God gave you John 3.

All of these books, chapters and passages boil down to one thing.... He gave you Jesus.

There are many counterfeits out there. If they were easy to detect, they would not be called counterfeits. God gave us these wonderful books in the Bible to test these counterfeits. This is where we find our markers to detect them. The Holy Spirit does not contradict God's word. On this, you can stake your eternal life.
-Justjo
"Jesus: Lord, Liar or Lunatic" Pick one

Editor's note: Romans ch. 1:20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse."




Friday, January 18, 2013

"Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers"

Paul said in  1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

We are being told to prove/test everything. Don't take anyone's word for it. Check the facts for ourselves to see if they measure up to Gods Word and Facts.

On the contrary, The prophets and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ say, Only read church approved material. DO NOT read "Anti-Mormon" material on the internet or any other place.

They are taught, from a young age, to not question the Prophets. https://www.lds.org/manual/aaronic-priesthood-manual-3/lesson-24-follow-the-prophet?lang=eng

 Do not immerse yourself in internet materials about early church leaders. "Can Ye Feel So Now?", Quentin L. Cook, General Conference October 2012

 "It's wrong to criticize leaders of the church, even if the criticism is true." Dallin H. Oaks, PBS Mormons Documentary, 2007

 Shouldn't always tell the truth "There is a temptation … to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful. "The Mantle is Far, Far Greater Than The Intellect", 1981, Packer

What is there to fear in a Question? Is the foundation of your beliefs so shaky that a mere question and answer session would cause it to crumble if it was answered with truth? Do you really want to be associated with an organization that can't be faced with a question and give a straight answer? I couldn't. Once God decided to open my eyes and show me his Truth, I couldn't be associated with it.

After joining the LDS faith, I questioned. For 4 years I questioned things that still didn't fit into the puzzle. Every year (Back when you had to go into the get your temple recommend renewed every year) I would ask the questions that bothered me, and every year I was given answers that made no sense. The 4th year, I was told by my Stake president "If you purse this course, you will be filled with the spirit of the Devil and fall away from the Restoration." Does God plant seeds of fear? Why would a question fill someone with the spirit of the Devil? When our children come to us with questions, do we not answer them to the best of our ability or do we tell them to shut up or I'm going to smack you? Well, my Stake president planted the seed of fear in me that sat, and festered for 10 years. My last stake Presidents wife asked me why I never asked them my questions. Simple enough, I was still scared to ask my questions for fear I would 'be filled with the spirit of the devil'. I was always so worried about how others looked at me.. and listening to the gossip about those that asked questions or left the church... I didn't need that at that time in my life. She also suspects that my history before Joining the LDS faith is at fault for my leaving. She's absolutely right. You KNOW church history in Polygamy. It's taught to you from a very early age. You are well aware that not only Brigham Young took many wives but Joseph Smith also took many wives well before the section 132 in the D&C was revealed.

So I kept my questions to myself. My husband knew I had them but it was kind of like the Elephant in the room no one ever spoke about. He had his own questions also. If you ignored them long enough, they would go away. If you told yourself enough times they don't matter, they will go away. If you think about the answers you were previously given enough times, they might start to make sense. None of this is true. My questions were alive and well. 

What do you think you would do if you questioned? Have you recently read or saw something on the internet that didn't quite sit right? Did it make you angry/fear? Has it caused you to completely shut out/block/remove that website/person/group? Did you ask yourself, why or did fear/anger cause you to act rash without thinking through your actions. Are these from God? Would God tell you to not ask a question? No.. but the Devil and his workers do. Don't let fear keep you from finding truth.


Yes truth fears no questions as truth is self-evident and is not threatened by our questioning. Truth can stand up to scrutiny on its own. It reminds me of a similar quote which goes something like "Unanswered questions are far less dangerous than unquestioned answers".
The truth that sets us free fears no questions, and the truth of perfect love also casts out fear. There is no fear in love, just as there is no fear in truth. Truth and love goes hand in hand, and is always on our side.